Comments on: Of Lost Control… http://www.readitlive.com/2007/05/27/of-lost-control/ dedicated to promoting budding poets, writers and bloggers Wed, 08 Sep 2010 05:47:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Fraz A. Nayyar http://www.readitlive.com/2007/05/27/of-lost-control/comment-page-1/#comment-572 Fraz A. Nayyar Thu, 14 Jun 2007 08:26:43 +0000 http://www.readitlive.com/2007/05/27/of-lost-control/#comment-572 I think Nietzsche thought in these very same lines before he rejected all nations / thoughts / beliefs and started with the basic assumption "I think therefore I am" and came up with existentialism. You think, and the article above is ample proof of that, and therefore you are, what it all boils down to is whether you can take the leap to reject everything and then begin the over-drawn process of reaching conclusions, and making (in the true sense of the word) informed decisions. There is also a movie about making the same decisions in another more universal context "The Fountain", I would suggest you give it a watch. Loved the article... I think Nietzsche thought in these very same lines before he rejected all nations / thoughts / beliefs and started with the basic assumption “I think therefore I am” and came up with existentialism. You think, and the article above is ample proof of that, and therefore you are, what it all boils down to is whether you can take the leap to reject everything and then begin the over-drawn process of reaching conclusions, and making (in the true sense of the word) informed decisions.

There is also a movie about making the same decisions in another more universal context “The Fountain”, I would suggest you give it a watch.

Loved the article…

]]> By: Tamania Jaffri http://www.readitlive.com/2007/05/27/of-lost-control/comment-page-1/#comment-571 Tamania Jaffri Thu, 14 Jun 2007 07:44:30 +0000 http://www.readitlive.com/2007/05/27/of-lost-control/#comment-571 Asim your theory is interesting and nicely put forward. However it also relieves us of all responsibilities in our lives. I wish things were this simple. I agree history repeats itself and circumstances prepare the consequences, however the individual herself and her will are also an important ingredient to the output curry. Asim your theory is interesting and nicely put forward. However it also relieves us of all responsibilities in our lives. I wish things were this simple. I agree history repeats itself and circumstances prepare the consequences, however the individual herself and her will are also an important ingredient to the output curry.

]]> By: Asim http://www.readitlive.com/2007/05/27/of-lost-control/comment-page-1/#comment-491 Asim Mon, 28 May 2007 16:14:14 +0000 http://www.readitlive.com/2007/05/27/of-lost-control/#comment-491 Perhaps another way to put things in perspective could be say sachin tendulkar goes to bat against Australia. He gets a bouncer the first ball; he decides to duck the ball hits his glove it goes in the air; ponting dives to catch it but he misses by a whisker. You know what things went behind this simple act? I dont but perhaps they were 1) tendulkar doesnt like bouncers 2) tendulkar wants to score quickly 3) it was a flood night match; the lights blinded ponting 4) ponting was carrying a injury on his right catching hand....etc etc. NOTE: That doesnt mean ponting dint try! It also doesnt mean Tendulkar dint try! It also doesnt mean the bowler dint try....what it means is the event could have had only 1 outcome. We just think there were other possibilites. Perhaps another way to put things in perspective could be say sachin tendulkar goes to bat against Australia. He gets a bouncer the first ball; he decides to duck the ball hits his glove it goes in the air; ponting dives to catch it but he misses by a whisker.

You know what things went behind this simple act? I dont but perhaps they were 1) tendulkar doesnt like bouncers 2) tendulkar wants to score quickly 3) it was a flood night match; the lights blinded ponting 4) ponting was carrying a injury on his right catching hand….etc etc. NOTE: That doesnt mean ponting dint try! It also doesnt mean Tendulkar dint try! It also doesnt mean the bowler dint try….what it means is the event could have had only 1 outcome. We just think there were other possibilites.

]]> By: Asim http://www.readitlive.com/2007/05/27/of-lost-control/comment-page-1/#comment-490 Asim Mon, 28 May 2007 16:05:49 +0000 http://www.readitlive.com/2007/05/27/of-lost-control/#comment-490 you misunderstand.... i suggest u give it some more thought.....the above example actually re-enforces the theory. If the girl came from a different cultural background and due to some special circumstance / event / or maybe she just 'came to' decide to become religious....the point is she would have made the same decision whatsoever. Say she was 25 years etc. months old --> again if we were to make her go to the age of 24 (somehow stopping time and taking it back 1 year); then replaying she would again turn religious at age 25. Because that is what she is. She thought it was a deliberate choice...but she dint really have a choice. Its not about circumstances shaping people...as circumstances shape everyone differently. Its about how they shaped that 1 particular person; And the above mentioned theory is trying to explain things --> it has got nothing to do with things being easy / difficult. Its the way things are.... you misunderstand…. i suggest u give it some more thought…..the above example actually re-enforces the theory. If the girl came from a different cultural background and due to some special circumstance / event / or maybe she just ‘came to’ decide to become religious….the point is she would have made the same decision whatsoever. Say she was 25 years etc. months old –> again if we were to make her go to the age of 24 (somehow stopping time and taking it back 1 year); then replaying she would again turn religious at age 25. Because that is what she is. She thought it was a deliberate choice…but she dint really have a choice. Its not about circumstances shaping people…as circumstances shape everyone differently. Its about how they shaped that 1 particular person;

And the above mentioned theory is trying to explain things –> it has got nothing to do with things being easy / difficult. Its the way things are….

]]> By: Sidra Nadeem http://www.readitlive.com/2007/05/27/of-lost-control/comment-page-1/#comment-489 Sidra Nadeem Mon, 28 May 2007 13:51:58 +0000 http://www.readitlive.com/2007/05/27/of-lost-control/#comment-489 Your theory is interesting but not uncommon. The idea of having no control over your life is a famous one though belief in it takes away from mankind its most important power of decision making, reducing us to mere puppets. I agree with your stance of every single decision being influenced by a thousand factors that one has no control over yet man has been given the power of going against his pre-set values and Sobia's example above perfectly illustrates that. The no control view, in my estimation, is an easy way out of struggle. Your theory is interesting but not uncommon. The idea of having no control over your life is a famous one though belief in it takes away from mankind its most important power of decision making, reducing us to mere puppets.

I agree with your stance of every single decision being influenced by a thousand factors that one has no control over yet man has been given the power of going against his pre-set values and Sobia’s example above perfectly illustrates that.

The no control view, in my estimation, is an easy way out of struggle.

]]> By: Sobia http://www.readitlive.com/2007/05/27/of-lost-control/comment-page-1/#comment-485 Sobia Mon, 28 May 2007 10:05:28 +0000 http://www.readitlive.com/2007/05/27/of-lost-control/#comment-485 Very interesting article! If I am correct than according to this theory if we track the history of an individual we can tell what profession he will choose what color shirt will he wear in a certain circumstance in fact even tell will he be a suicide bomber or not!! But a few questions come to my mind! Lets take an example of a female friend of mine who is always been exposed to the so called modern side of society. Her schooling friends & parents, every element in her life tells you that she has been exposed to liberating opinions & actions...then why suddenly this female chose to become extremely religious cover her face & hands, stop watching TV or listen to songs! When her background implicates other wise? Is it not true that no matter what environment we grow up in we have the ability to question the decisions we make & act upon them differently!! Though all of us may not have the will power to do so!!...we know what path is to be taken but do not choose it just because one might seem easier than the other? Very interesting article!

If I am correct than according to this theory if we track the history of an individual we can tell what profession he will choose what color shirt will he wear in a certain circumstance in fact even tell will he be a suicide bomber or not!!

But a few questions come to my mind!

Lets take an example of a female friend of mine who is always been exposed to the so called modern side of society. Her schooling friends & parents, every element in her life tells you that she has been exposed to liberating opinions & actions…then why suddenly this female chose to become extremely religious cover her face & hands, stop watching TV or listen to songs! When her background implicates other wise? Is it not true that no matter what environment we grow up in we have the ability to question the decisions we make & act upon them differently!! Though all of us may not have the will power to do so!!…we know what path is to be taken but do not choose it just because one might seem easier than the other?

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